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Video: How Will the Israel-Hamas Urban War Influence Future Wars
(Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs) Maj. John Spencer interviewed by Lt.-Col. (res.) Maurice Hirsch - Statements from political leaders saying "the correct number of civilian casualties is zero" would mean don't fight a war. This is the first war I've ever observed where not only did people believe there could be a daily civilian casualty count, but they took the word of a terrorist organization on what it would be and just started parroting a terrorist organization's numbers, which is the exact strategy that they want, in order to get the world, the UN, and U.S. to force Israel to be defeated. Israel was condemned for the use of a 2,000-pound bomb in an urban area. The U.S. used over 15,000 in the first Gulf War, because it's a very standard military munition to hit an enemy in a bunker underground. When Israel is following every rule that's ever been thought of, and implementing ones that nobody's tried, it then gets told that, well, you've got to find a different way. If you ban the use of bombs in urban combat, then you're going to see a lot more urban combat around the world, because a weaker force will say, look, all I have to do is get into the urban area and you can't touch me unless you come in here, and I turn it into a meat grinder where you lose tens of thousands of soldiers and I achieve my political goals. This double, triple standard that Israel is being held to will come back to bite the world in the future. Israel waited over three weeks after October 7th to allow civilians to leave. And the world said, well, you can't do that. You can't evacuate a million people out of northern Gaza and into southern Gaza, into the Al-Mawasi humanitarian zone. Israel did this for over 850,000, which is 85% of the population. Israel handed out maps of safe areas to help evacuate the civilians. No military in the world has ever handed out maps. This also telegraphed the IDF's moves to Hamas. They also used advanced technologies, flying drones with speakers, using cell phone presence to know where the civilian presence was and then not going into those areas until they've been evacuated. Everybody gave Israel advice on the way to bring the hostages home. Don't launch a ground invasion. Just use raids. Look, I know it'll take you a few years to get your hostages home, but just use raids and strategic strikes to take out Hamas leadership. That's anti-historical, it has never happened. No military has ever been successful in doing something like that. Hamas spent years developing an environment with the sole purpose to get civilians killed if Israel ever entered that environment. What would America have done in the same situation? Gen. Mark Milley, former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said, We would have used overwhelming military force to achieve our objectives of bringing our people home and securing our borders and protecting our nation as quickly as possible. Step one would be ensuring not a single rocket emanated out of enemy territory, headed towards our civilian areas like Los Angeles. Gen. Milley has been very vocal, saying we would have used overwhelming force, immediate force. I'm a researcher, and what the case studies show is that failing to do this will result in a protracted war and increased suffering. All of these groups who want to limit the suffering of war have in this case increased the suffering, not because of Israel, but because of Hamas and international pressure. The way Israel was forced to execute this campaign has caused hostages to stay in captivity longer. This way has caused civilians to die. This way has caused civilian suffering. The speaker is Chair of Urban Warfare Studies at the Modern War Institute at West Point. This is from a Jerusalem Center War Room Briefing on June 24, 2024.